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Post by Imada Saneatsu on May 5, 2015 6:01:12 GMT
Continuing the proud tradition of the Group Talk thread, I am here yet again so we can all lie to each other in various amusing ways! And also discuss strategy and stuff like that, if you're weird.
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Post by LSRose on May 5, 2015 6:17:04 GMT
I'm plenty weird enough to roll with this!
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Post by Imada Saneatsu on May 5, 2015 6:52:53 GMT
Alright, I would like to immediately point out that using a false signature EVER is a bad idea. You still pay out whatever you promised, just to the LGT instead of any players. In other words, the only reason for it is to make enemies.
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Post by cozzer on May 5, 2015 7:25:19 GMT
No, wait, isn't it the other way around?
If you make a contract with a fake signature and you DON'T win (but somebody else who was part of the contract does), then your share gets paid to the LGT.
But if you do win, you get to keep the whole prize (and you get other players to utterly trounce you for revenge in following rounds).
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Post by deendir on May 5, 2015 7:40:49 GMT
Cozzer's right. If you betray a contract and win, you walk off with everything.
Although, if it's a lot of players like Fukunaga tried, then you are unlikely to get through both the next main round and the corresponding revival round.
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Post by Imada Saneatsu on May 5, 2015 8:19:38 GMT
Ah. It appears I slightly misread it.
The point still stands though. No need to make enemies this early in the tournament, and you will almost definitely make enemies by using false signatures.
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Post by WhITelion on May 5, 2015 10:14:54 GMT
I'm back.
Read everything.
So basically... The best way to go around this is not making any contracts at all?
(Lone Wolf trophy as a bonus, too.)
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Post by cozzer on May 5, 2015 14:02:53 GMT
Well, if you are a VERY high-risk-high-rewards type of guy, I guess.  |
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Post by superfreak on May 5, 2015 17:57:45 GMT
Well if anybody wants to make contracts with me, I'm happy to oblige!
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Post by Imada Saneatsu on May 5, 2015 20:36:24 GMT
Lets look at it this way: What do you think the probability of getting the good side of a contract is?
Remember, if you make a contract where you get money where you don't win, having a false signature means they you still don't get money. So it only benefits the winner. So let's say we make a contract where the winner has to pay the other member. We have 4 combinations.
Player 1 Binding&Win Player 2 Binding&Lose= Player 1 keeps at least 50%, Player 2 keeps 50% or less.
Player 1 Binding&Win Player 2 False&Lose= Player 1 keeps at least 50%. LGT keeps the rest.
Player 1 False&Win Player 2 Binding&Lose= Player 1 keeps 100%.
Player 1 False&Win Player 2 False&Lose= Player 1 keeps 100%.
The winner has 2 situations where he pays money, and 2 where he keeps all. Of course, since he is the one that won.
The loser has 1 situation where he gets money. The only way a loser can get money is by a binding contract where the other person binds as well. 1 out of 4 chance. But is it really a 25% chance? See, when setting up a contract, it is probably to set someone else up as a winner. That person who knows he is going to be the only person who could win has everything to gain by using the false signature. If this is true, then it is a 100% chance that the loser will get nothing.
I can't believe that I'm going to say this but... it might be better to trust people's word. I know it sounds stupid, but the contracts would take time to write up and lull people into a false sense of security. Furthermore, contracts can't be broken if you discover treachery later.
Just a thought.
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