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Post by Imada Saneatsu on Mar 8, 2015 0:53:00 GMT
This is just a thread I started in case people wanted to talk as a group, instead of using a ton of messages or using preexisting threads. I would like to start off by saying the obvious, just to clear the air.
First: There is absolutely no monetary advantage not paying off the taxes. It carries over, and needs to be payed off at the end of the game anyways. So as a group, we need to pay the taxes.
Second: We as a group need to pay ¥10,000, since we need to pay ¥1,000 10 times. This leaves a ¥5,000 prize.
Third: There are three players with ¥5,000, give or take up to ¥70 a turn. As such, we we can pay ¥3,333 with one person paying an extra yen, and we would all get a prize of ¥1,667 if we pay equally, with one person getting one yen less.
With these facts in mind, I propose a strategy. On the first round, we have to trust each other. Not trusting each other is ridiculous. However, it would be equally ridiculous to ignore the possibility that someone will skimp. So if we all pay ¥500 yen the first turn, we can decrease debt next turn, but if someone skimps we won't collect protesters. If someone skimps, we will also know pretty quickly, since the total won't match up.
One last thing I would like to address is the fact that turboblaze has ceased all forms of contact since he posted that he would join. If he reads this, I ask him kindly to let us know that he is alive.
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Post by WhITelion on Mar 8, 2015 0:56:33 GMT
OK, give me a few minutes to read up. I can confirm those 3 things are true. PEdit: Now that I'm done, this will be my status update post for this game. The problem with your strategy would be: If someone does not pay ¥500, how can we even punish him? Edit 2: Added a Monopoly board for references. Attachments:
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Post by WhITelion on Mar 8, 2015 0:59:28 GMT
I have the entire Sunday off so if anyone want to talk business then add me on AIM. (Try to specify your timezone).
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Post by WhITelion on Mar 8, 2015 1:02:05 GMT
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Post by Imada Saneatsu on Mar 8, 2015 1:03:59 GMT
Great! Thank goodness you were able to contact... Wait. What were you talking about?
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Post by WhITelion on Mar 8, 2015 1:04:56 GMT
Great! Thank goodness you were able to contact... Wait. What were you talking about? We were playing Pokémon. I lost due to bad planning.
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Post by Imada Saneatsu on Mar 8, 2015 1:06:18 GMT
Oh. Okay.
On an unrelated note, any objections to my plan?
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Post by WhITelion on Mar 8, 2015 1:07:44 GMT
Oh. Okay. On an unrelated note, any objections to my plan? As stated above, if someone skimps, how can we prevent that from happening next time?
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Post by Imada Saneatsu on Mar 8, 2015 1:10:30 GMT
Well simple. If someone is skimping, then both paying players would have to pay almost ALL of their money. So the paying players would have nothing to gain. Thus, we would lose nothing from sinking 12 properties and calling game over. It is really the only way to pressure uncooperative players.
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Post by WhITelion on Mar 8, 2015 1:14:12 GMT
Well simple. If someone is skimping, then both paying players would have to pay almost ALL of their money. So the paying players would have nothing to gain. Thus, we would lose nothing from sinking 12 properties and calling game over. It is really the only way to pressure uncooperative players. OK then. But if we follow this plan, no one will have ¥1667 at the end. You forgot to add our income. PEdit: Did some maths. We have about ¥173 to spend each turn without affecting the plan.
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Post by Imada Saneatsu on Mar 8, 2015 1:21:21 GMT
We have no way to know who has which properties yet. Besides, the max you can get is 10*7*10 (Price of all the best properties*amount of properties*turns)=700, it could also be as low as 36*10 (all 7 of the lowest properties*turns)=360 Neither number is big, and there is a huge difference in possibilities anyways.
Like I said, best not to worry about it.
Unless someone wants to give out the names of their properties, of course.
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Post by WhITelion on Mar 8, 2015 1:23:06 GMT
What I calculated was our total income. I would like to offer a proposal: We cut 2 turns by paying ¥1 additional each. How does this sound?
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Post by Imada Saneatsu on Mar 8, 2015 1:34:25 GMT
I'm afraid you lost me. If we pay and additional yen a turn, that will be 1*10*3 (yen*turns*players)= a total of 30 over the course of the game. 1,970 short. To skip 2 turns, we would each need to pay 84*8*3 (yen*turns*players-- remember, we are skipping 2 turns, thus why the turns=8)=2016. Also remember, the more we pay each turn, the more we risk.
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Post by WhITelion on Mar 8, 2015 1:36:51 GMT
What I mean was we pay ¥501 a turn. In this case, we have enough insurance if someone skimps. And the game moves on to Turn 3/5/7/9 immediately (Assuming mutual trust). So, any objections?
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Post by Imada Saneatsu on Mar 8, 2015 1:40:37 GMT
I see what you mean now. My apologies. I'm not sure the insurance will be necessary, but I'm fine with risking ¥10 over the course of the game. Deal.
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